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art sealant?

Postby Janmew » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:37 pm

Is there such a thing to use to seal a pencil/graphite/charcoal type drawing so that is doesn't smudge or get damaged?
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Re: art sealant?

Postby Elva » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:00 pm

I don't know where you are from, but in the United States any art supply store will have 'fixative.' Look on the label to see if it is for charcoal / pencil. etc. Great stuff. Also women's hair spray works quite well. Often one can buy sample bottles of it and have a small one for field sketching. Some spatter .... don't use that. Make sure it has a fine mist. Have your art in a vertical position and spray from about 18 inches away.

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Re: art sealant?

Postby Janmew » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:32 pm

Thank you, Elva. I'm in Canada so may be able to get some here, but can always order online as well. I had heard about hairspray but was reluctant to try it in case it wasn't true and it ruined the art. SO the fixative won't wet the paper and cause any damage that way? That's what I was afraid of. On your advice I will try some :)
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Re: art sealant?

Postby Andre Jute » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:11 am

Ask for, or search for, pastel fixative. The one I have is made by Ghiant in The Netherlands for the arts distributor Create. It's called "Artist's Soft Fixative" and described as working with pencil, charcoal and pastel art.
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Re: art sealant?

Postby mdmattin » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:41 am

It's a good idea to do some practice runs with the paper and medium you're using before trying it on artwork you care about. It can change the color or texture if applied too heavily or if your materials happen to react weirdly with it.
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Re: art sealant?

Postby Janmew » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:24 am

Thanks Andre, and Matt.

Does anyone know if this http://www.dickblick.com/products/grumbacher-workable-fixative/would be a good one? Grumbacher is supposed to be a good brand for other things.
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Re: art sealant?

Postby Elva » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:29 am

Matthew makes a good point ... experiment. I'd rather put two light coats on rather than one heavy one.
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Re: art sealant?

Postby Alitogata » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:51 pm

Janmew wrote:Thank you, Elva. I'm in Canada so may be able to get some here, but can always order online as well. I had heard about hairspray but was reluctant to try it in case it wasn't true and it ruined the art. SO the fixative won't wet the paper and cause any damage that way? That's what I was afraid of. On your advice I will try some :)


Hi Jan.Hair sprays work sometimes better than fixative. Just check that the hair spray that you'll choose is not the kind of liquid wax, liquid jel and so on.. Just hair spray. Use it as elva said.. Spray from distance and gradually. :)
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Re: art sealant?

Postby Andre Jute » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:31 pm

Janmew wrote:Does anyone know if this http://www.dickblick.com/products/grumbacher-workable-fixative/would be a good one? Grumbacher is supposed to be a good brand for other things.


That's a sealant for unsized surfaces to make it possible to work on them with water-based media.

What you want to protect your work is this sort of thing: http://www.dickblick.com/search/?q=penc ... p_cs=UTF-8 of which this one is known to me as good: http://www.dickblick.com/products/winso ... -fixative/
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Re: art sealant?

Postby Alitogata » Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:14 pm

Andre Jute wrote:
Janmew wrote:Does anyone know if this http://www.dickblick.com/products/grumbacher-workable-fixative/would be a good one? Grumbacher is supposed to be a good brand for other things.


That's a sealant for unsized surfaces to make it possible to work on them with water-based media.

What you want to protect your work is this sort of thing: http://www.dickblick.com/search/?q=penc ... p_cs=UTF-8 of which this one is known to me as good: http://www.dickblick.com/products/winso ... -fixative/


Winsor and Newton's fixative is one of the worst I've ever tried. After a time, falls of the painting, in the form of this thing that rubber erasers leave behind, I don't know how are called the leftovers of a rubber eraser, ( this rubber.. makaroni.. :lol: :lol: ) and falls of the painting or sticks to your fingers, taking with it the graphite or chalcoal of the painting. Worst fixative ever.. better use a strong hair spray than this thing.. I call it bottled snot... :lol:
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