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Dark pencil but not soft..

Postby Alitogata » Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:36 pm

I want to buy a really dark in color graphite pencil but with not that soft lead like 5 of 6B pencils have.
Can you tell me please, ( if you have tried it of course) which company ( if there is one) sells such kind of pencils?

Thank you in advance for any information.. :)
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Re: Dark pencil but not soft..

Postby Andre Jute » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:40 pm

Alitogata wrote:I want to buy a really dark in color graphite pencil but with not that soft lead like 5 of 6B pencils have.
Can you tell me please, ( if you have tried it of course) which company ( if there is one) sells such kind of pencils?

Thank you in advance for any information.. :)


Dunno about graphite. Try Wolff Carbon.
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Re: Dark pencil but not soft..

Postby RajeshS » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:03 pm

I have used a "charcoal" pencil a couple of times and felt that it was "scratchy" and "powdery" but not soft

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Re: Dark pencil but not soft..

Postby mdmattin » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:51 pm

Two that I use are the Cretacolor Nero #1 extra soft and the Palomino Blackwing. Both have the nice quality of being able to take and hold a sharp point and having a wide value range from very light to jet black.
The Nero I use for life drawing; it also combines well with water and oil based paints.
The Blackwing I use for more fine grained renders like this. I prefer to use it on smooth, bristol-like paper rather than toothy paper - it's almost impossible to erase from soft paper.
A less pricey alternative is the STAEDTLER Mars Lumograph 4b, which draws like a dream.

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Re: Dark pencil but not soft..

Postby Alitogata » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:53 pm

Thank you for the suggestions. Rajesh thank you for your suggestion but honestly I can't stand the scratching sound of charcoal on paper :shock: :shock: ( aaaahhhh it's shivering! ), otherwise I would use it..

Andre I can't find Wollf Carbon here and I'm not about to pay 5-6 euros to ship to me a pencil. So I'll try two of Matthew suggestions the Cretacolors, and the Staedlers, which both are available in the market and easy to find.

Thank you very very much.. :)
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Re: Dark pencil but not soft..

Postby Andre Jute » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:46 pm

Okay. Here's a tip about Cretacolor. I have a kit , a tin of six pencils, called "Oil Pencil"
http://apassionforpencils.com/product/d ... pencil-set
from them which is the series in which the Neros are (careful: the Primo tin which looks the same is charcoal and chalk pencils, not oiled). These "oil" pencils are oiled charcoal, chalk and pastels, but smooth not scratchy. Here's a good trick though: Cretacolor also sells a student line of pencils and packages them in academically recommended sets. I have a set a dealer gave me for any opinion; he sold it for 5.95 but he's sold out now after I recommended it. It's almost as good as the Oil Pencil set above, and includes an extra soft charcoal oil and several other useful pencils.
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That's them in one of my pencil books; I don't have the box any more. But here they are in the package at the Cretacolor site:
http://apassionforpencils.com/product/d ... rawing-101

Also well regarded if you can get them locally (they're €1.25 loose at a Cork arts supply pusher) is the
Conte Pierre Noir Pencil, available up to 3B at my dealer; it's lead.
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