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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby Andre Jute » Sun May 24, 2015 1:00 am

It's just the way we speak English. "My" bike shop is the internet pusher Chainreactioncycles.com but i don't own any shares in them, i'm just a customers. "My publisher" doesn't mean i own them, rather the other way round! (Hey, Gemma, liberate me!) English is weirder than you think Greek is.
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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby Jeroen » Sun May 24, 2015 8:20 am

I do concept sketching for advertising. Once I've scanned my line drawings I throw them away. I threw away tousands of drawings in the past 25 years I guess. My finished work is a Photoshop file.
I keep my personal work in a drawer or something. They usually get lost after some time.
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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby Alitogata » Sun May 24, 2015 10:35 am

Andre Jute wrote:It's just the way we speak English. "My" bike shop is the internet pusher Chainreactioncycles.com but i don't own any shares in them, i'm just a customers. "My publisher" doesn't mean i own them, rather the other way round! (Hey, Gemma, liberate me!) English is weirder than you think Greek is.


Ok ok.. I got it.. :roll:

P.S. Chainreactioncycles??? I thought that you were boutique stores' client... :P :lol:
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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby Andre Jute » Sun May 24, 2015 9:51 pm

Alitogata wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:It's just the way we speak English. "My" bike shop is the internet pusher Chainreactioncycles.com but i don't own any shares in them, i'm just a customers. "My publisher" doesn't mean i own them, rather the other way round! (Hey, Gemma, liberate me!) English is weirder than you think Greek is.


Ok ok.. I got it.. :roll:

P.S. Chainreactioncycles??? I thought that you were boutique stores' client... :P :lol:


Nah, everything on my bike is German and Swiss, and lasts forevever. I'm far too poor to buy expensive disposable components.

By the way, have you ever reflected how much better a bike suits a sketcher than a car? In a car you see nothing in enough detail, with enough time for comprehension, to take it in and evaluate it as a subject, whereas on a bike you make a new discovery every few minutes even on familiar routes, because you're giving yourself so much more eye-time.
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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby Andre Jute » Sun May 24, 2015 9:55 pm

Jeroen wrote:I do concept sketching for advertising. Once I've scanned my line drawings I throw them away. I threw away tousands of drawings in the past 25 years I guess. My finished work is a Photoshop file.


When I first went into advertising, a creative team was a creative director, a writer, a paste-up person (junior artist) and a visualizer, who was a sketch artist who did what you do, four people in all, plus an account executive. Because of costs, in a very few years, the team was reduced to a writer and a layout artist, and I regretted that because I thought necessary skills were being lost. (We also had an old chappie who could handletter down to 12 point in any font you asked for... last of his breed.) But, if you're still doing it, the skill is not lost. Hurrah!
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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby mdmattin » Mon May 25, 2015 12:13 am

Andre Jute wrote:have you ever reflected how much better a bike suits a sketcher than a car?

As you now, I'm an avid bike sketcher, but lately I've been fantasizing about sketching on the water. I live in a river valley, and there are places one can rent canoes and kayaks, but I've never managed to avail myself of them so far. I can imagine paddling up to a secluded cove, or one of the many decrepit mills and factories that line the river and doing a sketch from a novel point of view.
I can also imagine it being even more of a pain than plein air painting on land, with the wind blowing you around, bugs, glare, etc. Has anyone tried this? Besides JSS, I mean. or Monet,come to think of it.
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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby Andre Jute » Mon May 25, 2015 2:12 am

Love the dollybirds looking on adoringly as their men create... You might be able to row up to some landing places not otherwise reachable, and do well on land, but I can't imagine that sketching in a canoe will work well.
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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby Alitogata » Mon May 25, 2015 3:00 am

Andre Jute wrote:
Alitogata wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:It's just the way we speak English. "My" bike shop is the internet pusher Chainreactioncycles.com but i don't own any shares in them, i'm just a customers. "My publisher" doesn't mean i own them, rather the other way round! (Hey, Gemma, liberate me!) English is weirder than you think Greek is.


Ok ok.. I got it.. :roll:

P.S. Chainreactioncycles??? I thought that you were boutique stores' client... :P :lol:


Nah, everything on my bike is German and Swiss, and lasts forevever. I'm far too poor to buy expensive disposable components.

By the way, have you ever reflected how much better a bike suits a sketcher than a car? In a car you see nothing in enough detail, with enough time for comprehension, to take it in and evaluate it as a subject, whereas on a bike you make a new discovery every few minutes even on familiar routes, because you're giving yourself so much more eye-time.


Show us a little mercy.... If YOU are poor what am I then?? :roll: :lol:
Of course bicycle suits better to visual artists.( and I know many photographers who are cyclists too).
Slower speed means more time to observe the surroundings.
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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby Alitogata » Mon May 25, 2015 3:03 am

mdmattin wrote:As you now, I'm an avid bike sketcher, but lately I've been fantasizing about sketching on the water. I live in a river valley, and there are places one can rent canoes and kayaks, but I've never managed to avail myself of them so far. I can imagine paddling up to a secluded cove, or one of the many decrepit mills and factories that line the river and doing a sketch from a novel point of view.
I can also imagine it being even more of a pain than plein air painting on land, with the wind blowing you around, bugs, glare, etc. Has anyone tried this? Besides JSS, I mean. or Renoir,come to think of it.



I have to agree with the coach above.. Sketching in a canoe doesn't sound that good as an idea... :)
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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby Jeroen » Mon May 25, 2015 9:08 am

Andre Jute wrote:When I first went into advertising, a creative team was a creative director, a writer, a paste-up person (junior artist) and a visualizer, who was a sketch artist who did what you do, four people in all, plus an account executive. Because of costs, in a very few years, the team was reduced to a writer and a layout artist, and I regretted that because I thought necessary skills were being lost. (We also had an old chappie who could handletter down to 12 point in any font you asked for... last of his breed.) But, if you're still doing it, the skill is not lost. Hurrah!


Yes, that is a major part of what I do. Markers are replaced with Photoshop, but the idea is just the same.
Things have indeed changed over the past years. Compared to the old days, job functions are more and more combined. And to be honest, I wouldn't want it anyway else. I love the diversity of nowadays.
A basic team at my company is a "creative" (concept and strategy) a "designer" (conceptvisuals and design) and a "projectmanager" (budget, planning, etc.). When other skills are needed (photography, web development, copy, etc.) we add an external specialist to the team. Keeps the company very flexible and the work at a very high level.
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Re: What do you do with your Sketchbooks?

Postby Andre Jute » Mon May 25, 2015 3:10 pm

Jeroen wrote:A basic team at my company is a "creative" (concept and strategy) a "designer" (conceptvisuals and design) and a "projectmanager" (budget, planning, etc.). When other skills are needed (photography, web development, copy, etc.) we add an external specialist to the team.


Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. What comes round, goes round.
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